HERESY!!! “Pope” Francis advised Tony Palmer NOT to Convert, ordered him buried as a Catholic Bishop!!!

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Unbelievable: Pope Francis-Bergoglio playing God again… Tony Palmer not Catholic but Buried as a Catholic Bishop!!!!  Welcome to the Church of Bergoglio, where NON-Catholics are buried as Catholics and in some cases  A CATHOLIC BISHOP!!

Anathema sit!! Haereticus!!

Novus Ordo Watch: “Pope” Francis advised Tony Palmer NOT to Convert, ordered him buried as a Catholic Bishop!

The absurd circus that is the Jorge Bergoglio “Papacy” continues unabated. A very interesting article published by Austen Ivereigh in the Boston Globe on August 7, 2014, gives a lot of background information on the friendship between “Pope” Francis and the Anglican-Evangelical “Bishop” Tony Palmer, and casts the latter’s deadly motorcycle accident in an even more significant light:

[The church communion Palmer was “ordained” in sees itself] as part of a “convergence” movement, seeking to combine evangelical Christianity with the liturgy and sacraments typical of Catholicism.

That convergence, Palmer told me, “is a precursor to full unity between the Protestant and Catholic Churches.”

Palmer and [his “Catholic” wife Emiliana] Calisi began doing joint missions around the world — which is what took him to Buenos Aires in 2006. Its archbishop, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, had overcome his reservations about the charismatic renewal and enthusiastically backed a 6,000-strong joint Catholic-evangelical gathering that year in Buenos Aires’ Luna Park stadium.

At one point, when Palmer was tired of living on the frontier and wanted to become Catholic, [then-Cardinal] Bergoglio advised him against conversion for the sake of the mission.

“We need to have bridge-builders”, the cardinal told him.


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Pope’s Protestant friend dies, but push for unity lives

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At one point, when Palmer was tired of living on the frontier and wanted to become Catholic, Bergoglio advised him against conversion for the sake of the mission (!!!) “We need to have bridge-builders”, the cardinal told him.

LONDON – The English surgeons who fought to save the life of a badly mangled motorcyclist on the morning of July 20 might have guessed he was someone unusual, since the hospital was receiving calls from Rome, from the pope himself, asking for updates.

The silver Audi that slammed into a Protestant cleric named Bishop Tony Palmer in a quiet country lane that morning, however, left little chance of his surviving, and he died after a 10-hour emergency surgery. The news stunned not just his grieving wife and young adult children, but many across the Christian world who were aware that, behind the scenes, the unlikely friendship of Palmer and Pope Francis was the catalyst of an extraordinary historic breakthrough in relations between the Catholic Church and the evangelical world.

An articulate, laid-back, jovial South African in his early fifties, with a penchant for quirky clerical clothes, Palmer didn’t look or sound much like a conventional Anglican bishop. When I first met him in May, at a coffee shop in Bath, close to where he lived with his family, he explained that he had been ordained by the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches, or CEEC, whose presiding bishop is in Florida.

The CEEC, which was formed in the 1990s, is Anglican. Yet unlike the Episcopal Church in the United States, it’s not part of the Anglican Communion loyal to the Archbishop of Canterbury. Its leaders see themselves as part of a “convergence” movement, seeking to combine evangelical Christianity with the liturgy and sacraments typical of Catholicism.

That convergence, Palmer told me, “is a precursor to full unity between the Protestant and Catholic Churches.”

Born in Britain, Palmer grew up in South Africa where he worked as a medical underwriter and met and married Emiliana, a non-practising Italian Catholic. After a sudden conversion they began worshipping in an evangelical church. Palmer worked for some years in South Africa for Texas-based Kenneth Copeland Ministries, pioneer of the controversial “prosperity Gospel” which claims that God rewards his faithful with material blessings.

On trips back to Italy to visit Emiliana’s family, the Palmers encountered the Catholic Charismatic Renewal, a movement within the Catholic Church which has absorbed the Pentecostal evangelical traditions of praise-style worship, healing, and an expectation of spiritual gifts. Through the charismatics, Emiliana returned to the Catholic Church, and the Palmers with their young children began attending Sunday Mass. In the 1990s they began spending long periods in Italy, where they were invited to speak at Catholic churches.

In 2003 they moved to Italy full-time to work with Matteo Calisi, head of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal in Italy. Palmer increasingly felt at home in the Catholic Church but was unable to affiliate an ecumenical group he founded called the “Ark Community” with Rome because not all his members were Catholics.

Palmer instead found a home in the CEEC, which claims about a million adherents and 6,000 clergy. After further study the CEEC ordained him a priest, giving him a particular mission to Christian unity, and later consecrated him as a bishop. Palmer and Calisi began doing joint missions around the world — which is what took him to Buenos Aires in 2006. Its archbishop, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, had overcome his reservations about the charismatic renewal and enthusiastically backed a 6,000-strong joint Catholic-evangelical gathering that year in Buenos Aires’ Luna Park stadium.

Palmer and Calisi and four others went to meet the cardinal prior to beginning their mission in his diocese. When Palmer told Bergoglio that he was an Anglican evangelical with a Catholic wife and children, the cardinal was curious: how did they live that difference? Palmer told him that it worked very well, but that, since he led his family back to the Catholic Church, he was no longer allowed to take Communion with them.

When Palmer told him that his children asked him why he would join a church that separated a family, he said that Bergoglio’s eyes filled with tears.

“His heart broke,” Palmer recalled.

The cardinal asked if they could remain in touch and meet regularly. Over the years, the Buenos Aires cardinal and the evangelical bishop formed a deep bond, staying in touch by telephone and email between face-to-face meetings.

Palmer and Bergoglio had intense discussions about Christian separation, using the analogy of apartheid in South Africa. They found common ground in believing that institutional separation breeds fear and misunderstanding. Bergoglio, whom Palmer called “Father Mario,” acted as a spiritual father to the Protestant cleric, calming him (“he wanted to make me a reformer, not a rebel,” Palmer told me) and encouraging him in his mission to Christian unity.


At one point, when Palmer was tired of living on the frontier and wanted to become Catholic, Bergoglio advised him against conversion for the sake of the mission (!!!)

“We need to have bridge-builders”, the cardinal told him.

“Proselytism is solemn nonsense” – Pope Francis

In 2012 Palmer’s family moved to England, to allow their son to prepare to enter university there. Palmer had little idea of Bergoglio’s rising star, but received an email three days before the conclave of March 2013 asking for his prayers. When he saw Pope Francis emerge on the balcony, Palmer was thrilled but assumed that their friendship would be over.

Shortly after the New Year, however, he received a call. Francis wanted to know when he was next in Rome, could he come by? On January 14, Palmer spent the morning with Francis in the Vatican residence where he now lives, the Domus Santa Marta.

“We didn’t have an agenda,” Palmer recalled. “He told me that we are brothers and nothing will change our friendship.”

Palmer told him that the following week he would be addressing 3,000 evangelicals at Kenneth Copeland’s international leaders’ conference in Fort Worth, Texas, and would he like to send a word of greeting?

“Let’s make a video,” Francis replied.

“You want me to pull out my iPhone and record you?” asked Palmer, astonished.

“Yes, exactly,” the pope answered.

When he presented the recording to the Pentecostals in Texas, Palmer said that few Protestants knew that the Catholic and Lutheran Churches had signed a historic declaration in 1999 settling the doctrinal issue of the Reformation.

“We preach the same Gospel now,” Palmer told them. “The protest is over.”

Then he played the video, in which Francis addressed them as brothers and sisters and said that with just “two rules” — love God above all, and your neighbor as yourself — “we can move ahead.” He spoke of the sin of separation, and his yearning for reconciliation. “Let us allow our yearning to grow, because this will propel us to find each other, to embrace one another, and together to worship Jesus Christ as the only Lord of History,” he told them.

The delegates reacted rapturously. After the video went viral Palmer began to be inundated by requests from evangelical leaders to be part of what was happening. “People said: this is a new day, this is what we have been waiting for.” Palmer had to cancel his teaching commitments and his own studies simply to cope with the correspondence. He reported it all to Pope Francis in a meeting in April, who was amazed.

Cosa facciamo? “What do we do?” he asked Palmer.

On June 24, Palmer took a group of evangelical leaders who jointly reach more than 700 million people to meet and lunch with Francis, which he reported to me a few days later, as he left for two weeks in South Africa. The delegates included Copeland, the televangelist James Robison, as well as Geoff Tunnicliffe, head of the Worldwide Evangelical Alliance. They told Francis they wanted to accept his invitation to seek visible unity with the Bishop of Rome.

Palmer handed the pope a proposed Declaration of Faith in Unity for Mission the evangelicals had drawn up, which they proposed would be signed by both the Vatican and leaders of the major Protestant churches in Rome in 2017, on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation and the 50th anniversary of the Catholic Charismatic Renewal.

Palmer told me the draft Declaration has three elements: the Nicean-Constantinople Creed, which Catholics and evangelicals share; the core of the Catholic-Lutheran declaration of 1999 making clear there is no disagreement over justification by faith; as well as a final section asserting that Catholics and evangelicals are now “united in mission because we are declaring the same Gospel.”

The closing section speaks of the importance of freedom of conscience and the need for Catholics and evangelicals to respect each other’s mission fields and treat the other with respect, not as rivals. Francis had taken the draft and said he would think about it. Palmer and I agreed to speak again when Francis got back to him, but that was not to be.

Last Wednesday, in Bath, Palmer’s funeral was a Catholic Requiem Mass at which most of the congregation were evangelicals. He was buried in a Catholic cemetery, united at last with the Church he felt at home in.

Pope Francis sent a message, which was tearfully read out by Emiliana Palmer. In it he said he and Palmer were close friends, and like father and son, “Many times we prayed in the same Spirit.” He praised Palmer as a brave, passionate and pure-hearted man in love with Jesus, who left a precious legacy in his passion for Christian unity.

Francis created the strong impression that the work he and Palmer had begun would continue.

“We must be encouraged by his zeal,” the pope said.


“The protest of Martin Luther is over: Tony Palmer, the Protestant who no longer wanted to protest

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“The protest of Martin Luther is over. Tony Palmer, the Protestant who no longer wanted to protest

(Rome) In the last six months of this pontificate unexpectedly a man came to the stage, which was the Catholic public previously unknown. So fast seemed to be his star, he is also extinguished again. Reason enough to look a little closer, to understand what is happening around Pope Francis. This past July 20, died after a motorcycle accident in the UK and of futile hours in the operating room Anthony Joseph Palmer, Bishop Founded in 1995, Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches (CEEC), which belongs to the Anglican world community.Palmer was born in Britain, grew up in South Africa, was professionally initially worked in the insurance industry, married to an Italian, and was converted in adulthood to Christ. In the last six months of his life he became a “friend of Pope Francis’ international reputation. On Monday, July 28, he would have “secret” meeting of the Pope with Pastor Traettino of the Evangelical Church of Reconciliation should participate in Caserta.

Where today runs the break line?

“I understand Tony Palmer, because I went the same way,” Father Dwight Longenecker said a former American Protestant and former Anglican, now Catholic priest and the Internet, a well-known personality. “Growing up in a Protestant North American family, I have made myself on the search for the truly historic church and became Anglicans. This step has approached me to the catholicity and finally I was admitted to the communion of the Catholic Church. In this way, I have experienced the fullness of the faith of the Catholic Church and at the same time all the positive aspects of the Protestant and Anglican traditions. I do not deny the positive aspects, but it reinforced by my Catholic Will, “said Longenecker.


“For some time, the actual separation is no longer that between Catholics and Protestants, but between the Christians who believe in revealed religion and those Christians who believe in a relative religion. The real divide is now between the progressives who want to change suffered by Christ in the history of faith in the sense of a contemporary spirit and those who believe that the zeitgeist is challenge by the eternal and immutable truth of the Christian Gospel always new. Those who believe in a relative, progressive and modernist form of Christianity, despise the wonderful element of religion and think that the Church had to adapt to the needs of modern society completely on a sociological basis. ”

The evangelicals and charismatic Episcopal direction

In Tony Palmer to Father Longenecker recognized again. A young man who was really looking for Christ and in this way met the Pope. Palmer had risen to become a leading representative of the CEEC.  Almost 20 years ago from the Convergence Movement emerged that a larger group of conservative American Protestants, evangelical direction and with a charismatic style of prayer resulted since the 1970s to rediscover the liturgical and Episcopal tradition of the Anglican world community. The self-designation “church” does not say anything about the size of the different communities, which can range from a handful of believers to several tens of thousands. From this emerged several umbrella organizations of different evangelical charismatic Anglican churches. Such a merger is the CEEC. First archbishop was Michael Owen, after John Kikuva, an Anglican bishop from Kenya led the transition to the Episcopal tradition. Other bishops Old Catholic or Oriental tradition join the CEEC. Through the Mission Archbishop Robert Wise, the CEEC experienced their distribution in Europe. In Italy, the community was founded L’Arca in Todi, which was founded by the British Tony Palmer, who is married to an Italian. Palmer was ordained as a community leader from the CEEC to the bishop. Palmers community is interested in a particular way to a Celtic spirituality and the Christian origins in the British Isles. However, Todi never belonged to the Celtic area in Europe.

Meeting with Pope Francis on January 14 in Rome

When and how the Celtic-Anglican Bishop Tony Palmer and the Catholic Pope met is not known exactly. Both Palmer and Wise regularly took part in ecumenical meetings especially with charismatic Catholics. However, the decisive moment for Palmer seems to have been the last January 14, when he, in his capacity of the leaders of the International Ecumenical Officer was received by the Pope of the CEEC. The official bulletin of the Holy See was recorded on that day among the audiences: “His Grace Anthony Palmer, Bishop and International Ecumenical Officer for the Communion Evangelical Episcopal Churches”. Palmer was (now expanded to C9) received Oscar Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga of Tegucigalpa and a member of the C8 Cardinal Council immediately before Archbishop.

What was discussed in detail here, is not known to within a point: the Charismatic Evangelical Leadership Conference , in February took place a few weeks later in Texas under the leadership of Kenneth Copeland, one of the most famous and influential representatives of the Evangelical-Pentecostal movement Word of Faith . Palmer is reported to the Pope of it and have underlined the importance of this meeting within the evangelical Pentecostalism. The Pope sent the Leadership Conference in any case spontaneously a video message that was received by Palmer with his smartphone in place (see separate report unusual correspondence from the Vatican ).
The Pope wanted to take the opportunity by doing something that no Pope had done. He came into direct contact (albeit at a distance) to leading evangelicals. Whether the video message is now part of the official or private Magisterium of the Pope, lawyers and dogmatists may employ. The private teacher unfolds in any case its effect.

Palmer’s speech in Texas

The spontaneous video was pretty unspeakable best homespun, showing a pope who stammers a few English words, then speaks Italian and can translate in english subtitles. It seems to play no role. With the Anglicans Palmer before the assembled in Texas evangelicals spoke in February, he was attentive ear. Palmer spoke on this occasion actually only about Catholic: about the charismatic Catholics about the Catholic Church, through its long-standing friendship with Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio, about the conclave that chose this pope, about the emotions he felt when he saw those as the new Pope, which he considers one of his three spiritual fathers, about his Italian wife, who again took their Catholic faith and their children who are educated in the Catholic faith. And then, it seemed to not be denied, Palmer announced what was previously sure all present had thought impossible: a video message of the Catholic Pope to an evangelical meeting. The Protestant congregation watched and listened in amazement and silence. As it is said, is of the influential evangelicals present even someone who converted to the Catholic faith. Pope Francis talked about the “desire” for unity. A keyword that was well received in Texas. The message was there, does more than a thousand speeches ecumenical and inter-religious meeting. What does this mean on a dogmatic level, is difficult to evaluate.

Palmer had been under John Paul II and Benedict XVI. Shown sympathy for the Catholic Church. With Francis he wanted to work on the unity of the one Church. In Texas, Palmer told the evangelicals gathered there: “The protest of Martin Luther is over. And you? ”

The meeting on 19 June and Caserta

On June 19, Palmer was a member of the Evangelical-Pentecostal delegation was received by Pope Francis in the Vatican (see separate report Gimme Five between Pope Francis and tele-evangelist James Robison ). A meeting of the except of protocol took place. The Bulletin of the Holy See does not mention the encounter. A meeting, which has not officially taken place, was supposed to be just as the Pope’s visit last Monday in Caserta “private” as Vatican spokesman Father Lombardi stressed and therefore not part of the official acts of the Pope.

Nevertheless, the Holy See published now officially the Pope’s address before the charged in Caserta Evangelicals and Pentecostals. Thus, the visit will be charged subsequently made an official papal act.

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
image: CEEC Italy